When you love your work as an intellectual property rights lawyer and you’re an artist at heart and you have small children, that might all culminate into writing a children’s book to help children understand what intellectual property is from an early age. Or at least that’s what happened for Atlanta-based lawyer, Becki C. Lee.
A month or so into the COVID shutdown, she had an idea for a children’s book about intellectual property rights. She sat down and wrote out a poem about what patents, trademarks, and copyright are so that young entrepreneurs, creatives, and tinkerers could be educated and empowered to understand their IP rights from an early age.
As soon as I heard about the project, I knew I wanted to be involved. We began to collaborate on me publishing the book, Do You Draw Pictures?, through my publishing imprint Scarlet Oak Press. And Becki enlisted the help of her former bandmate, Walter Jaczkowski, who is a great artist and has illustrated the book.
This interview is about Becki C. Lee’s journey as a professional, the development of her new book Do You Draw Pictures?, and what’s next.
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Teaching Kids about Intellectual Property with Becki C. Lee
Jeremy Richter
My guest today is Becki C. Lee. She is an intellectual property lawyer with Seyfarth in Atlanta. And she is the author of the brand new children’s book about IP rights, Do You Draw Pictures? Becki, welcome to Lawyerpreneur.
Becki C. Lee
Thank you for having me.
Jeremy Richter
All right. So a little context for everybody who’s listening to the conversation. You and I know each other. Although we’ve never met in person, we are part of the same LawyerSmack community where we like kind of knew each other a little bit. But then over the last six months, when we’ve been working on Do You Draw Pictures?, which I’m going to which I’m the publisher for, I’d say we’ve got to know each other a little better. Is that fair?
Becki C. Lee
Yeah. Yeah, that’s a good way to put it.
Jeremy Richter
Tell me about what Do You Draw Pictures? is and why you wrote it?
Becki C. Lee
Well, I can tell you what it isn’t. And it’s not a treatise. So I worry that some people have high expectations for what they’re going to learn from this book. It’s very much a 101. This is what a trademark is, this is what a copyright is, inventions can be patented, etc. And it’s for very small kids about ages four to eight. And I started just writing it for my kids. Because my four year old son was really interested in trademarks, just from the perspective of like pointing them out as we drove by stores and things like that. And then it kind of morphed into this bigger thing.
Jeremy Richter
So more generally, I mean, did that kind of spark in you like, Okay, he’s already noticing this things that are he’s inundated with his, you know, the rest of his life. And so I want to explain it to him what it was, is it means is that kind of how that worked?
Becki C. Lee
Yeah. And, and we read to both kids all the time, and we read all these different books, and now they’re books on more complicated topics, but broken down for children like science, and history, etc. And I thought, well, I could just do a poem about IP, because I know what it is. I work with it every day. And, you know, I’ll write this funny poem about copyrights and trademarks for Wyatt and Ruby, and I’ll maybe show it to some close friends. That’ll be the end of it. Um, but yeah, it was, you know, it’s just not something that’s talked about to young children. And so I thought, why not? I’ll just write it down. And then as you know, while I was thinking about just putting it out on a limited basis, I kind of started thinking, Well, you know, there’s not a lot of Well, let me put it this way. There is a lot of misinformation about IP. And everyday folks talk about copyrights and trademarks, and they’re not always right, but it’s not their fault. It’s just that everything, almost everything that’s in the media and pop culture is wrong about intellectual property. So You know, let’s get them started from a young age.
Jeremy Richter
Yeah, I mean, all you got to do is go to Twitter or some social media conversation where these things come up. And it’s all the bad takes.
Becki C. Lee
Yeah, yeah. Like you’re not gonna copyright your invention, or trademark your idea. Yeah.
Jeremy Richter
All right. So were you kind of actively working on writing this? How long did it take? Or was it just like, the Muse struck you with an idea, and you wrote it all down at once?
Becki C. Lee
The latter. It happened really quickly. I was actually reading to my two year old daughter. And an idea popped into my head, just one stanza of the book. And after I put her down, I went downstairs and typed it out on my phone. And then my husband came downstairs from putting our five year old to bed. And I said, Hey, I think I wrote a children’s book. And at that point, it was probably like, 10 or 15 stanzas. And I eventually added an intro and kind of a conclusion? And that was it.
Jeremy Richter
About when was that? Do you remember?
Becki C. Lee
It was before the pandemic. It was probably a month or two before the shutdown?
Jeremy Richter
Okay. And the reason I ask is because, I don’t know, a few weeks after the lockdown set in. I went on LinkedIn one day. And this is how I get involved in this story. I went on LinkedIn, and said, hey, I’ve seen a lot of interesting and innovative, creative things that people are doing. If you’re one of those people, why don’t you share what you’re doing? And because at that point, I had started this podcast, and there were just a lot of people doing things. And you were one of the folks who responded. Yeah. And I don’t even remember what your response was. But I think
Becki C. Lee
I just said, I think I said, I wrote a children’s book about intellectual property expecting to get maybe one like on that comment. And then you responded and asked a question about it, I think. And then we started talking, and that’s when you told me you were thinking about putting out other law books. And I was like, well, it’s not really a law book, but it is a law book. So okay.
Jeremy Richter
Right, because this idea that, you know, my first book I had published with the ABA, and I’ve talked about this a little bit on here. And I had control over what I wrote, but they had a lot of control over the ultimate product. And so I wanted my two more recent books, I published independently, and I created a publishing imprint Scarlet Oak Press. And because I wanted to control things more than what that allowed for. And I also had this idea that I think there’s a lot of lawyers who have time to write, well, maybe make time to write it’s better if it used to, but don’t necessarily want to get into all of the business of publishing and spending years learning about that. And so I had the idea that I want to be create a platform for other lawyers who if they want to publish their books and retain some control that’s available to them. And so I reached out to you with that, and it’s like, Hey, here’s what I’m thinking about. And, ultimately, we have,
Becki C. Lee
Yeah, I’m excited about it, because at first I thought, well, he’s not gonna want to put this out because it’s not for lawyers. But then I thought, well, lawyers are gonna buy this for their kids, because a lot of us have a hard time explaining to our kids what we do for a living. My son for a long time was mispronouncing, or maybe pronouncing correctly, lawyers as liars. And that’s pretty much all he knew. And he told one of his teachers the other day, that she said, What do your parents do? And he said, they work at home on their computers. Yeah, okay. That’s true.
Jeremy Richter
And my son who’s five says, like, he says I’m an office worker. And, like, that’s pretty true. It’s true and I try to make it sound a little better. But you know, like, that’s what it comes down to most days. And yeah, while my wife, he tells people she works at the hospital, and that’s way cooler.
Becki C. Lee
Right? Yeah, that’s something people can really grasp onto and go, Oh, that’s awesome. Yeah. Well, you tell people, you’re a lawyer, and they’re like, yeah, or they have some problem they have with something that’s not in your practice area, and you don’t know what to do.
Jeremy Richter
Alright, so you and I decided to work together. We laid out a contract because we both wanted to accomplish a couple particular things. And that is, while when I wrote my books, I have wanted to maintain control of my intellectual property rights. You also wanted that for yourself. So why don’t you tell folks how we structured and we don’t have to get into the details of everything, but I think it’s important for people who are considering publishing or considering, you know, various aspects of this understand the different layers of it, and what’s possible, so why don’t you kind of outline how we structured ours, and what it enables you to do as far as your intellectual property rights?
Becki C. Lee
Sure. So before I did anything, I think before you and I ever even talked, I had already registered my or applied to register my first draft with the Copyright Office, because I felt like, what kind of IP lawyer would I be if I didn’t do that?
Jeremy Richter
Sure, that’d be driving around without car insurance.
Becki C. Lee
Right, exactly. So, um, so I felt very strongly that I wanted to keep the copyright in my written word. And thankfully, you and I came from sort of an even playing field in terms of, I guess, bargaining power, or you had a lot more experience in publishing and books and such than I did. And then I had this very personal thing that I had written. So we both had our own, I guess we had sort of even considerations. So it was easy for us to say, Okay, I will give you this exclusive license, and we can put this one book out, and then go from there. And so it’s maybe the easiest negotiation I’ve ever entered into.
Jeremy Richter
So there’s only one of us lost, or both of us lost if we were both the way it turned out.
Becki C. Lee
I think so. Yeah. I think that’s probably what that means. I’m sure someone would look at it and be like, why did you do this? But it’s, you know, it’s always from the perspective of the other person like, well, it just, it just ended up that you wanted to put this out, and I needed help putting it out. And yeah, I’m sure if I had gone to, you know, Random House, we would have we would be telling a very different story. Yeah. Yeah. Did I answer?
Jeremy Richter
Yeah, no, that’s great. So after the initial hurdle, which we cleared, you had to get somebody to illustrate it. Ultimately, you hired, well, hired may not be the right word. The illustrator is somebody you’ve known for a long time. Tell us about who it is and what’s his relationship with?
Becki C. Lee
It’s Walter Jaczkowski. I call him Wally, because I’ve known him for a really long time now, but he’s professional. Now he goes by Walter. He’ll probably be embarrassed that I said that, but it’s hard for me not to call him Wally. Anyway. Yes. So he and I were actually in a band together in Detroit, called Wally Jaczkowski and the Consequences of His Stupid Actions. And it was just the two of us. And we covered some punk songs, and we played some originals, and it was a lot of fun. It was right before I moved back from Detroit, back to Atlanta. And he and I had kept in touch over the years. I actually saw the last time I saw him in person was, I went up for the Cardozo BMI moot court competition, the copyright moot court competition in New York City. And he was managing a bar there. And I just went and hung out with him after my competition was over. And so we had kept in touch, I knew he was a designer, a graphic designer and a bar manager. But I also knew that he still drew and he used to do our band posters for shows and stuff like that. So I had gone around and around about what to do for illustrations. And then ultimately, I felt like I wanted to work with someone that I trusted, and that I knew. And I also wanted the illustrations to be simple and to compliment the words instead of overpowering them. Because you know, some books are gorgeous, but then you don’t know what the story is. You just know that you’re like the picture. So I wanted it to have sort of a given take of that. So I went to him and he said, Are you sure? Are you sure you want me to do this is that? I said, Yes, I’m positive. And he and I started working together. And he also felt strongly about keeping copyright and his illustrations and because He’s a friend and I trust him. And we have a good relationship, it was easy to say, Okay, great, let’s make this happen. And it was a really collaborative experience.
Jeremy Richter
All right, so one of the things that I just have really enjoyed about this project in its entirety, is how certain things have connected. You and Walter who’ve known each other for a long time are working on this together and brought this thing to life. My decisions to independently published my last two books led us to being able to work together because if I had not written them, or had just continued to go through the ABA, I wouldn’t have had the experience or even been involved in this field where I was in a position to do it. And then, you know, our, the online community that we’re part of with lawyer smack all of these things, and because we wouldn’t have met otherwise, we just don’t, wouldn’t have come across each other. Right? There’s just a whole confluence of events that allowed this project to turn out the way that it has. And any number of different decisions by any one of us would have had a different results. And I just think that’s really interesting.
Becki C. Lee
Yeah, I think it’s great to I think most of most of my jobs and opportunities and fun things that have happened in my life have sort of come about that way. And it’s always fun and surprising, because it’ll come out of some kind of big change or disaster in my life, and, you know, things will just kind of fall into place. So it’s given me a good, a good perspective in terms of, yeah, the world is a dumpster fire right now. But if you just take it one day, at a time, you know, maybe something good will come along.
Jeremy Richter
I totally agree. And I can say the same thing about so many decisions in my life. And, for example, I graduated college a semester early with an education degree. And there are not a lot of places hiring mid-year, usually. And so there was a school in Atlanta, and then one, just north of Birmingham, and the one in North Carolina, and I didn’t have ties to any of them. But I went to the wanting Birmingham and had a great visit. And they offered me the job. And I took it having no ties to Birmingham and no, no plans to even really stay. Because I had these romantic notions of moving out west and living in Wyoming and Montana and that sort of thing. And, you know, because of that decision, so many things have followed, including marrying an Alabama girl for one. And so you know, it’s just that one decision that had such a culminating effect on everything that’s followed.
Becki C. Lee
Yeah, I totally understand that. I would, when I moved to Detroit, it was to work for this startup record label. And they ran out of money, like, a year or so into me moving up there. And so a guy I knew at a record label in Chicago, was going to give me a job doing PR for him. But I was dating this guy, and I was like, I don’t want to leave Detroit yet. And the recession hit early in Detroit. So the economy was already pretty bad there. And I literally took my first unemployment check. And the record label, let me keep my laptop that they had bought for me. And that’s how I started my PR for her.
Jeremy Richter
Wow. All right, so did your work in music have any effect on the legal career that you eventually embarked on?
Becki C. Lee
Yeah, it was. It was everything. I mean, I went into law school knowing I wanted to do IP law. I wasn’t sure exactly what that was gonna look like. At first, I was dead set on being an entertainment attorney, because that was my background. And I knew entertainment attorneys, and I’d worked with bands and I’d worked with events and media, etc. But I met this while I talked to pretty much every IP and entertainment lawyer I could find in Atlanta when I first started. And I met this guy, Charles dB, who manages the blind boys of Alabama, and I talked to him on the phone one day and he was like, Look, this was 2011. So the effects of 2008 are were still happening. There was no on campus interviews. There were no jobs. He was like, if you decide to be an entertainment attorney, you’re gonna have to hustle for the rest of your life. If you decide to be an IP attorney, you’re going to have a steady job. So, I had already been an entrepreneur and run my own business for a little over four years. And I was, I don’t want to say I was not good at it or that I’ll never do it again. But the business of running my business took over my business, I couldn’t do my work anymore. And this Detroit circa 2008, was enough to give me I mean, I had to move back to my parents’ house at 29, and start waiting tables after I had been my own boss. So I still have a little bit of PTSD from that. So I went the IP route. And thankfully, I found my current boss, who was really into music, he was working with Georgia lawyers for the arts, like trying to do pro bono stuff, and I was interning there. And he needed somebody to help with this new trademark portfolio that had come in. And I kind of found this perfect marriage of, I get to have some entertainment clients still, and I get to do a lot of copyright work. But I also get to do really interesting trademark work for bigger companies. And it’s more of a steady stream of different kinds of work. I’m not having to kind of hustle and go out and find business, although I am still doing business development. But it’s not like, my life depends on it anymore. But I did know, like all through law school, it was IP. So I studied all the copyright stuff I did as much with Georgia lawyers for the arts as I could. And I stayed in touch with people from the music business and wrote some articles on trademarks for bands and stuff like that.
Jeremy Richter
Well, that’s really cool to hear a story from somebody whose careers have kind of aligned and cross paths like that, because that is not my story at all. Nothing touched anything else. And law school, I got a went in thinking that I wanted to be a prosecutor, and quickly discovered that wasn’t that that wasn’t going to be for me. And so after that, everything was very broad and not very deep, as far as what I was learning, because I didn’t have any idea where that was gonna eventually land. Going back to the book and the work that you’re doing, you copyrighted or you filed the application for the copyright for the text early on. But you have also applied your craft knowledge by applying for trademark. Tell me about that.
Becki C. Lee
Yes. Um, yeah. So I, as I was writing the book, and collaborating with Walter, I realized that it this book could turn into a series because there are not a lot of law books out there for kids. I don’t know if there are any, but there I think maybe there are a few but not a lot. And so I thought, Okay, well, let’s, let’s be optimistic and act as if this is definitely going to turn into a series. And let’s give it a name. And also, my trademark attorney brain was thinking, you can’t get a trademark registration for a single work title. So for example, I could not apply for a trademark for Do You Draw Pictures? So I thought the other advantage of this will be having any trademark registration to go with my book. So I’m hoping to turn it into a series with multiple channels of expansion, called Little gavels. And I did apply for a trademark registration for printed materials and educational materials. And yeah, so hopefully, that is going to be as big as I want it to be.
Jeremy Richter
Do you know yet other topics that you want to write about?
Becki C. Lee
Yes, I have started writing a book for younger kids about agreements. And I’m going to start with things that I know things that I deal with every day, because once I go into other areas of law, I’m going to need help. So I want to get some stuff down out of my head and onto paper that I know first. And so contracts is something I deal with every day. So I’m starting there. And then, as you know, but I don’t think I’ve really talked about anywhere else. Walter and I are going to try to do a comic book series for older kids. I don’t know what I’m going to call it yet, but it’ll definitely have little gavels still. Because people have been asking when this one came out, people said, are you going to do something for older kids? And I thought, well, you know, that’s the kind of stuff that does come up for preteens and teenagers like we have a band, what are we going to call it? Well, what if this other band has a similar name? What are we going to do? So that’s the kind of stuff that starts coming up way before kids ever learned about IP, and it’ll be good for them to learn it at that stage.
Jeremy Richter
So it sounds like, like the first series, maybe more introducing ideas. And then the thing for older kids may be applying those ideas through story.
Becki C. Lee
Yes, exactly. And I’m hoping to I’m talking to some local attorneys and other IP professionals about using the existing book to teach the, to teach Girl Scouts and other young kids and hopefully going to school libraries, etc. and kind of applying the ideas with even younger kids. So you know, okay, well, you just invented this cool new robot that does whatever, let’s talk about patents. I’m not a patent attorney, will bring a patent attorney with us. But you know, just to kind of introduce the basics, to the 10-year-olds as well.
Jeremy Richter
Alright, so marketing books can be tough. Marketing, children’s books can be particularly tough, because, you know, when you’re writing for adults, you can market directly to the adults. You can find them wherever they are, and go present this, hey, I wrote this thing. You don’t get to talk to the kids. Generally, you know, unless it’s part of an organization, like you just mentioned about, has your practice has being an IP lawyer opened up any avenues for marketing that you maybe hadn’t even thought of? previously?
Becki C. Lee
Yes, definitely. I was really surprised. For example, when I first mentioned this on LinkedIn, I thought, maybe 10 of my friends would see it. And somehow, a bunch of IP attorneys were like, Oh, this is great, I gotta get this for my kids, and cool idea, etc. And they started sharing, and then people would see it in their newsfeed. And so yeah, I think I’ll be able to market it to IP attorneys. Also, a lot of inventors have been saying it sounds like a cool idea. So that’s a whole group of people that I’ve never tapped into, because I’m not a patent attorney. And so I think it’ll be cool to also go to people who just invent stuff for a living, which is I can’t wrap my head around that, but I think it sounds really cool. So hopefully, those folks, thankfully, I still know a lot of artists and creators and musicians, and they’re going to be interested from that perspective, like teaching their kids to protect their work before it becomes an issue. So it’s funny, I sound so nerdy saying this, but I feel like it’s true. Intellectual Property affects literally everyone, and they don’t realize it necessarily. But as I have started to tell people about the book, I realize that even if it doesn’t affect people in a direct way, they are interested in it, because they hear about disputes between celebrities or big companies, or whatever, and they want to know about it, too. So like, I have a friend who’s a doctor, and her husband works in business. And, you know, they don’t work in intellectual property at all. But they’re going to get a copy for their kids just because they thought Oh, so it’s an interesting topic. I want to teach my kids so I’m hoping that somebody that people will find something in it that they like, regardless of what they do for a living. So I don’t know. I’m gonna try everything.
Jeremy Richter
Yeah, for sure. And I think that what’s interesting about the book, and part of what drew me to it is like, this isn’t a book for lawyers and lawyers, kids. This is a book for all kids, because whether they want to eventually start their own business, or they want to write music, for their own stories, regardless of any of that, before most of these kids can read, I’m before my kid who’s in kindergarten now could even read, he understood like, at an intrinsic level, what copyright is in that he could have Identify, or I’m sorry, I said copyright, he could identify, you know, Jack’s restaurant or McDonald’s or just by seeing it, which is the main point is that, like, just by seeing this one letter, you know exactly what you’re looking at, and you know what to expect from it. And so I think that’s a big deal.
Becki C. Lee
Yeah, it’s, it’s really funny because I, I sort of created a monster with my son. anytime he would see the circle r he’d be like, Look, Mommy, a trademark Mommy, mommy a trademark. And I’m sure it drove my husband crazy. But I think it’s funny now. And he, he also has started to recognize the TM. And sometimes he’ll see something that he knows is a trademark. But he doesn’t see the symbol next. It’s like, Mommy, there’s no r next to this one. But isn’t this a trademark? And I’m like, oh, boy, let’s talk about the most. So I thought he probably will know too much and annoy the crap out of his friends with it. But yeah, I mean, that’s kind of what hit me. Like, the concepts are simple. And I feel like as attorney is, I don’t want to generalize, but I’m going to anyway, I feel like as attorneys, all of us at some level, whether we do it aggressively, or just even maybe subconsciously, are gatekeepers, because we are knowledge workers. And so if we spread that knowledge, are we going to put ourselves out of a job? I think, no, I don’t think we’re going to put ourselves out of a job. As an intellectual property attorney, I’ve got intangible on top of intangible. But I think the value in having an attorney is helping you navigate the nuances, but you can’t even ask the right questions to get to the nuances if you don’t understand the building blocks. And so when I see a four year old who can understand trademark law at a very basic level, I think, well, how is it that this you know, journalists who’s writing about the latest trademark dispute, doesn’t understand that getting a trademark for candy doesn’t mean that no one can ever use the word candy again. So it’s not their fault. Like I said earlier, it’s just that it’s not taught in schools. And so I think, the more we can get that information out there and stop being a gatekeeper for that knowledge, it’ll help everybody’s conversations, because then when somebody comes to me to ask me a question about IP law, we’re not having to bring them up to speed, you know, we can kind of get to it a little bit quicker.
Jeremy Richter
Right? Because they, if they already can identify their problem that helps them be able to communicate with you better, so that you can more effectively solve it for them.
Becki C. Lee
Yes, exactly. And it can maybe help them register their own copyright or register their own trademark without an attorney’s help, which is possible there. You know, it’s straightforward, to a certain extent, go to an attorney, if you get an Office Action, you know, a lot of people can’t afford even to pay an online provider to register their trademark for them, but they can afford the filing fee. So yeah, I think it’s important for people to be able to help themselves up to a point where then they need more help.
Jeremy Richter
Yeah, I think that’s really good. And I like that mindset. And that’s something that we’ve talked about a lot here is an abundance mindset, where there’s, you know, the idea that there’s always more where that came from, and people are going to continue to have problems, and you aren’t likely to put yourself out of work by educating and helping folks. Yeah,
Becki C. Lee
I heard this interview one time with a doctor who is working on like, AI and mobile apps that can help you diagnose yourself and you know, people are worried that AI is going to put people out of a job. And his response really struck me because he said that AI helps you get to a certain point where then the doctor can spend more time getting to know the patient and really understanding the diet not only the diagnosis, but how to handle it instead of just like head down in the computer entering data. And then maybe you miss something that they said that would have clued you in I feel the same way about law. If I can get you know, the trademark maintenance and application process and my boss has been really great about this with using technology, but if you can handle the routine stuff in the most efficient way possible, then you have more time to sit with the client and really strategize like How do you want to use your IP portfolio? What is your goal with this? How much do you want to enforce it? That sort of thing and really get to know the client and understand their goals?
Jeremy Richter
Yeah, I’m all about elevating the level of conversation and understanding so that we can more effectively work for our clients. And so one of the clients, one of the things I tell my clients all the time, and I know that my kind of work differs from a lot of what a lot of other folks do is, you know, if you have a claim come up in Alabama, and it’s a weird issue that you’ve never interacted with before. And you just need to ask somebody a question. Even if it’s a file that is never going to get sent to me, it’s never going to go to litigation, but you just need some help understanding it, call me. And we’ll talk through it. And if I’d never built the first point one on it, then. So what it’s fine. Like, and that’s, you know, it’s not totally altruistic, because that strengthens our relationship. And I know that by helping them in that way. It’s, it’s good for them. But it’s also good for me, because they’re going to think of me when they have real problems that they do need to send to me, I’m going to be the lawyer they think of, and so it’s good for everybody. And it benefits everybody. And it’s not likely going to result in my business going under. Right. All right. We are as we were recording this are a couple of days out from the launch of the book, but by the time people hear it, yes, we’re very excited. It will be out and available. And for purchase, wherever where can people find Do You Draw Pictures? Well, you can I know. That I guess in this case, I could have just stated it.
Becki C. Lee
I know it’s on Amazon. I’m pretty sure Barnes and Noble as well. Is that right? Yeah. Or you could just go to scarletoakpress.com. Right. You have links to everything. Yeah. So
Jeremy Richter
Wherever you normally get books, so if it’s Barnes and Noble, Amazon. It’s available in paperback and hardcover, in ebook form, whatever form you want it, you can get it wherever it is that you’d like to buy your books. So where can people follow you online?
Becki C. Lee
I am on Instagram and Twitter, at Little Gavels in both places. I haven’t been super active just because things have been really busy at work. But I’m trying to get better about it. I’m hoping to also eventually have some sort of an email list. I know a few people have signed up already. And I’m hoping to keep people informed on educational opportunities for their kids things incidental to the book. So yeah, at @littlegavels on Twitter, and Instagram and littlegavels.com for the website.
Jeremy Richter
Alright, so if you want your kids to have a base understanding of what intellectual property is, go get the book Do You Draw Pictures? And if you want to keep informed about other projects that are going to come out, go to littlegavels.com and sign up for the email list or just follow Becki and you’ll be sure to see all of it. Thanks for coming on. I really enjoyed the conversation.
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